Episode 4 of the HIGHFLYER podcast brings Ronald Schuster together with Elisabeth Geyer-Schall of Raiffeisen Bank International for a frank conversation about what it actually takes to lead change in a large, complex organization.
Elisabeth speaks openly about the gap between having a clear vision for change and actually getting an organization to move with you. Vision sets the direction, but it's the day-to-day grit – the persistence through setbacks, resistance and slow progress – that determines whether change actually lands.
One of the recurring themes of the conversation is that no transformation is a solo achievement. As Elisabeth puts it, the big wins are never the work of one person alone – they happen because people genuinely pull in the same direction, not because of any single hero in the room.
For leaders driving change in their own organizations, the episode is a useful reminder that building genuine buy-in – not just communicating a plan – is most of the work. The technical part of a transformation is often the easy part; the human part is where vision and grit both have to show up.
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